
| Introduction SpeakEasy host Brian Champion introducing the 4 guests. Broadband Modem |

| The Basic Issue Dave Champion (Executive Director of Original Intent) and John Attwood (tax attorney) debate some of the fundamental issues of income tax. Mr. Attwood is shocked to hear that compensation for labor in the private sector is not subject to income tax. Mr. Dave Champion provides controlling US Supreme Court definition of 16th Amendment income. Broadband Modem |

| Where's the Law? John Attwood and John Turner (former IRS officer) discuss whether or not a law exists that makes a citizen liable for income tax. Mr. Attwood incorrectly states that Section 1 of the Internal Revenue Code imposes tax liability and Mr. Turner corrects him. Broadband Modem |

| Internal Revenue Code for "Taxpayers" Only Mr. Champion explains that the Internal Revenue Code is only applicable to taxpayers and gives examples of people who are "made liable" in the Internal Revenue Code. Mr. Attwood attempts to suggest that the term "compensation for services" [taxable] is synonymous with "compensation for labor" [nontaxable]. Broadband Modem |

| Something's Wrong John Turner talks about the fundamental problem with the enforcement of the Internal Revenue Code by the IRS. Broadband Modem |

| 900-Pound Gorilla Ernest Howard (CPA) states that whether a person is right or wrong the IRS can still be dangerous. Mr. Turner and Mr. Dave Champion express the fact that such a belief supports their contention that the government is violating the law and getting away with it. Mr. Dave Champion points out that in America, following the law should never land a citizen in hot water with the government. Broadband Modem |

| 5th Amendment Discussion Basic discussion on the 5th Amendment and tax returns. Mr. Attwood informs the audience that the issue of the 5th Amendment "is more complex than it used to be". Mr. Dave Champion explains the distinction of when there is 5th Amendment recourse and when there is not. Broadband Modem |

| Does Mr. Turner File? Brian Champion (host) asks Mr. Turner, point blank, if he files tax returns. Mr. Turner responds. Broadband Modem |

| The Tax Code is Perfectly Constitutional Mr. Attwood claims that if what Mr. Turner and Mr. Dave Champion were discussing "became a widespread problem" Congress would alter the Internal Revenue Code tomorrow to solve the problem. Mr. Turner responds. Broadband Modem |

| Attorney Says Government Has Rights This is an interesting ramble by attorney Attwood about FDR, the Supreme Court, the Milk Act, and packing the Court. He ends by saying, "...now the government has all these rights". Funny, we thought citizens had rights! Broadband Modem |

| Misapplication of the Tax Code Mr. Dave Champion confirms the Constitutionality of the Internal Revenue Code and illuminates the actual problem. Broadband Modem |

| Tax Cheats or Tax Avoidance A discussion on the difference between cheating on your taxes versus "tax avoidance". Mr. Howard refers to the nontaxpayer portion of society as the "underground economy". Discussion on how many people are not filing and who comprise the non-filing community. Broadband Modem |

| Tax Attorney Blames Big Tax Firms Mr. Attwood blames the "Big Four" accounting firms for IRS not being able to catch tax cheats. Broadband Modem |

| DOJ & IRS Cowardly Evade Answering Questions Mr. Dave Champion discusses the withdrawal of the IRS and DOJ from the Tax Honesty hearings scheduled in 2001 and states his opinion as to why IRS and DOJ pulled out of the planned hearing. Broadband Modem |

| Senator Grassley Trashes 1st Amendment Mr. Turner discusses the Congressional Hearing in which Senator Grassley advocated creating SWAT teams to take down websites that contain Tax Honesty information. His plan was thwarted when a staff member reminded him about the 1st Amendment. Broadband Modem |